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heavenlyxbodies) wrote2010-05-20 11:23 am
heavenlyxbodies) wrote2010-05-20 11:23 am
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In Which Mys Rants About Rants- anyone easily offend pls ignore this post
Okay, ya know how I said I wasn’t gonna do a post-5x22 post? Well, this isn’t one. It’s more a generalized overreaction post to all those other reaction posts out there. It was bourne of many things, incl a conversation with ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kimisgirl, wherein she asked me the simple unloaded question of “What did you think of it?”, which made me have to actually sit down and try to put words to it (many of which I’m reusing here for simplicities sake).
And well, I know this is gonna go over like a lead balloon, but I was happy with it. It wasn’t great cinema. It wasn’t great SPN. It was rather shoddy SPN, but by no means BAD SPN. I know ppl keep saying things about how it was too neat or that it was an unthought-out Hail Mary play. And I just gotta ask, are you guys watching the same show I am?
This does not mean that there weren’t issues; some huge and some smaller- the Chuck as God thing is kinda dodgy, though it does kinda prove that 5x4 was a total Zach induced sham, still... kinda dodgy.
But, I mean, I’m coming from the position of a diehard S1 follower, so I’m looking at this as the next reveal, the next piece that’s supposed to click with all those little things from past episodes and other seasons, AND I’m fully expecting there to be wtf leftovers. This is actually something I’ve mentioned before when ppl have said things about the show seeming to be off kilter this season, or following tracks that seemed to come from nowhere- most of them don’t come from nowhere, most things in some way big or small play back on scenes/information from other seasons.
It’s like, S2 All Hell breaks Loose Pt1, when we find out that Mary recognized YED in Sammy’s bedroom. It was just there suddenly, no explanation, just ‘Hi, random factoid’, but for those of us who stuck through we found out in S4 what that was all about. Likewise in S4 Lucifer Rising, when Luci tells YED to ‘find the child’- we know he means Sam, but we don’t know why, more to the point we don’t know why it’s so important that WE know Lucifer asked for this. I mean, hello, we’ve already establish 'the boy with the demon blood' is gonna bust Luci out (or most of us had sussed that by then), so why do they throw it in our face that this one child was so important to Luci. Again those of us who stuck around found out.
It’s one of the many things I have always loved about SPN is that it goes back on itself, there is always something new you find out that makes something seemingly random or innocuous before suddenly make sense.
Now, I’m not trying to wipe away all the show’s or this ep’s sins, just trying to make a point; consider it playing Devil’s advocate. *snickers*
*deep breath* Here’s the one and only true issue I had with 5x22 (it started in 5x21 actually). They didn’t delineate Sam’s strength and vulnerability against/to Lucifer sharply enough in previous eps. You look back on this season, last season, hells all of them and you see the signs, little things, things that were played-off, shoved under the carpet, or just plain wrongfully assumed by us the viewers to be ‘because of the demon blood’ or because of being a Winchester, but it was never truly shoved in our face until these last two eps that it was more than that. And THAT is where I fault the finale.
That said, one huge glaring, I can’t believe I didn’t pay more attention before, sign was bloody Mystery Spot- the all consuming darkness that took Sam after losing Dean, he was so completely fury blind that he’d take the chance that he was right and kill Bobby- this should’ve been a blinding neon sign saying look what’s in Sammy even without the blood. I never understood it, I always felt the entire episode was out of place and chalked it up to my feelings about the Trickster. But even that, what was it the Trickster said that he was trying to prepare Sam for it. Again, knowing what we know now, it explains a lot. Likewise in All Hell Breaks Loose Pt2, when Sammy doesn’t so much a s flinch when he killed Jake and Azazel asked Dean if he’s sure that ‘what he brought back was 100% pure Sammy’. Hells, that entire exchange is just one foreshadowing comment after another.
One final thought, the whole ‘splody!Cas situation. Agreed, completely ridiculously surreal, but that’s the kind of thing that made us or at least me love this show so long and obsessively as I have. So yeah, ridiculous and so bloody wrongly funny and so bloody SPN.
My Cas lovin’ nature is appalled, but my SPN love approves.
Now that I'm done, commence with the defriending, and leave any flames in the bin on your way out. :D
kimisgirl, wherein she asked me the simple unloaded question of “What did you think of it?”, which made me have to actually sit down and try to put words to it (many of which I’m reusing here for simplicities sake).And well, I know this is gonna go over like a lead balloon, but I was happy with it. It wasn’t great cinema. It wasn’t great SPN. It was rather shoddy SPN, but by no means BAD SPN. I know ppl keep saying things about how it was too neat or that it was an unthought-out Hail Mary play. And I just gotta ask, are you guys watching the same show I am?
This does not mean that there weren’t issues; some huge and some smaller- the Chuck as God thing is kinda dodgy, though it does kinda prove that 5x4 was a total Zach induced sham, still... kinda dodgy.
But, I mean, I’m coming from the position of a diehard S1 follower, so I’m looking at this as the next reveal, the next piece that’s supposed to click with all those little things from past episodes and other seasons, AND I’m fully expecting there to be wtf leftovers. This is actually something I’ve mentioned before when ppl have said things about the show seeming to be off kilter this season, or following tracks that seemed to come from nowhere- most of them don’t come from nowhere, most things in some way big or small play back on scenes/information from other seasons.
It’s like, S2 All Hell breaks Loose Pt1, when we find out that Mary recognized YED in Sammy’s bedroom. It was just there suddenly, no explanation, just ‘Hi, random factoid’, but for those of us who stuck through we found out in S4 what that was all about. Likewise in S4 Lucifer Rising, when Luci tells YED to ‘find the child’- we know he means Sam, but we don’t know why, more to the point we don’t know why it’s so important that WE know Lucifer asked for this. I mean, hello, we’ve already establish 'the boy with the demon blood' is gonna bust Luci out (or most of us had sussed that by then), so why do they throw it in our face that this one child was so important to Luci. Again those of us who stuck around found out.
It’s one of the many things I have always loved about SPN is that it goes back on itself, there is always something new you find out that makes something seemingly random or innocuous before suddenly make sense.
Now, I’m not trying to wipe away all the show’s or this ep’s sins, just trying to make a point; consider it playing Devil’s advocate. *snickers*
*deep breath* Here’s the one and only true issue I had with 5x22 (it started in 5x21 actually). They didn’t delineate Sam’s strength and vulnerability against/to Lucifer sharply enough in previous eps. You look back on this season, last season, hells all of them and you see the signs, little things, things that were played-off, shoved under the carpet, or just plain wrongfully assumed by us the viewers to be ‘because of the demon blood’ or because of being a Winchester, but it was never truly shoved in our face until these last two eps that it was more than that. And THAT is where I fault the finale.
That said, one huge glaring, I can’t believe I didn’t pay more attention before, sign was bloody Mystery Spot- the all consuming darkness that took Sam after losing Dean, he was so completely fury blind that he’d take the chance that he was right and kill Bobby- this should’ve been a blinding neon sign saying look what’s in Sammy even without the blood. I never understood it, I always felt the entire episode was out of place and chalked it up to my feelings about the Trickster. But even that, what was it the Trickster said that he was trying to prepare Sam for it. Again, knowing what we know now, it explains a lot. Likewise in All Hell Breaks Loose Pt2, when Sammy doesn’t so much a s flinch when he killed Jake and Azazel asked Dean if he’s sure that ‘what he brought back was 100% pure Sammy’. Hells, that entire exchange is just one foreshadowing comment after another.
One final thought, the whole ‘splody!Cas situation. Agreed, completely ridiculously surreal, but that’s the kind of thing that made us or at least me love this show so long and obsessively as I have. So yeah, ridiculous and so bloody wrongly funny and so bloody SPN.
My Cas lovin’ nature is appalled, but my SPN love approves.
Now that I'm done, commence with the defriending, and leave any flames in the bin on your way out. :D
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